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Reply to the comment on “A new model of charge transfer during ice–ice collisions” [C. R. Physique 4 (2003) 721–722]
[Réponse au commentaire sur « Un nouveau modèle décrivant le transfert de charge lors d'une collision entre particules de glace »]

Présenté par : Guy Laval

Marcia Baker1 ; John Nelson2
1 Depts of Earth and Space Science and Atmospheric Sciences, University of Washington, Seattle, WA 98195-1310, USA
2 Nelson Scientific, 7-13-8 Oginosato Higashi Otsu, Shiga 520-0248, Japan
Comptes Rendus. Physique, Volume 4 (2003) no. 6, pp. 723-724.
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DOI : 10.1016/S1631-0705(03)00106-3
Marcia Baker 1 ; John Nelson 2

1 Depts of Earth and Space Science and Atmospheric Sciences, University of Washington, Seattle, WA 98195-1310, USA
2 Nelson Scientific, 7-13-8 Oginosato Higashi Otsu, Shiga 520-0248, Japan 
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